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Johnny Depp is speaking out about his relationship with Amber Heard in a bombshell interview with The Times. The Pirates of the Caribbean actor alleged he was a “crash test dummy” for the #MeToo movement amid his and his ex-wife’s highly publicized trial.
In an interview with The Times, Depp traces his ideas of love back to his chaotic childhood. “What were my initial dealings with what we call ‘love’? Clearly obtuse. And what that means is, if you’re a sucker like I am, sometimes you look in a person’s eye and see some sadness, some lonely thing and you feel you can help that person.
“It was almost as if I was used to conflict,” he continued, adding that it influenced his input in all of his relationships. “It was not abnormal. I did my best to just step in and out.”
“But no good deed goes unpunished,” he said, with the interviewer interpreting his childhood to his relationship with Heard. “Because there are those who, when you try to love and help them, will start to give you an understanding of what that malaise, that perturbance was in their eyes. It manifests itself in other ways. And the interesting thing is that it is merely a sliver of my life I have chosen to explore, because it is my mother and my father. Do you know what I’m saying?”
“So, I’m not surprised,” he continued particularly about his mother’s influence, “I allowed myself to experience something—in some little psychological sphere—to help understand what it was like between my parents. I had to understand how my father dealt with it. So, it would be dumb for me to carry any bitterness.”
He added, “Eternal hatred? You want to put curses on someone? No. I know who I am, what that was and, look, it was a learning experience.”
“I knew I’d have to semi-eviscerate myself,” he said of the trial. Depp won the defamation trial after he sued Heard for $50 million. Amber wrote an op-ed in The Washington Post in 2018 about her experiences with domestic abuse. Though no names were mentioned, many people speculated it to be about her marriage to the actor. Depp claimed that the op-ed cost him his acting jobs. “Everyone was saying, ‘It’ll go away!’ But I can’t trust that. What will go away? The fiction pawned around the f–king globe? No it won’t. If I don’t try to represent the truth it will be like I’ve actually committed the acts I am accused of. And my kids will have to live with it. Their kids.”
He added, “So the night before the trial in Virginia I didn’t feel nervous. If you don’t have to memorize lines, if you’re just speaking the truth? Roll the dice.”
The interview comes weeks after Amber Heard announced that she became a mother to twins. The Aquaman actress welcomed daughter Oonaugh in 2021. It is not known who the father of Amber Heard’s babies is. Amber had Oonagh via surrogate pregnancy, but the Danish Girl actress said that she is both the “mom and dad” to her baby in an Instagram post of her holding her baby in front of a laptop.
“Becoming a mother by myself and on my own terms despite my own fertility challenges has been the most humbling experience of my life,” she wrote. “I am eternally grateful that I was able to choose this responsibly and thoughtfully.”
If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, help is available. Call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-SAFE (7233) for confidential support.
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