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Taylor Swift is always in the conversation. Lately, a lot of it has been because of her relationship with Travis Kelce, one that’s going strong. In fact, that’s going so well that there are rumors of an engagement almost every week. But her exes sometimes enter the conversation again, and this time Matty Healy did, thanks to comments his mom made about him dating Taylor Swift. Or him not dating Taylor Swift, that is.
Denise Welch, Matty Healy’s mom and a British actress, spoke about her son’s relationship with the singer during an appearance on Watch What Happens Live! with Andy Cohen. Cohen smartly asked about the album The Tortured Poets Department and Healy’s involvement with Swift.
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“Obviously, on pain of death can I talk about that episode, but not being her mother-in-law is a role that I am glad that I lost,” she said as the audience reacted in surprise. “Not that I have anything against her at all,” she added. “It was just — it was tricky.”
She went on to add, “She — listen, you’re not allowed to say anything, and then she writes a whole album about it.” Ouch. Welch also added that her son, “is very happy with his amazing fiancée Gabriella, who is gorgeous,” she said, in reference to model Gabbriette. “So, we’ve moved on.”
🚨Swifties🚨notes on The Tortured Poets Department from Matty Healy's mother Denise Welch #WWHL pic.twitter.com/cHE5F3ciZh
— Watch What Happens Live! (@BravoWWHL) July 25, 2025
But how does Swift feel about it? According to the Daily Mail, “It’s a bit obnoxious in Taylor’s eyes, but she has to take the high road. If there was anything that would be in a future song of Taylor’s—if she were ever to respond—she would respond that way. But as of right now, she might just let it slide. She is not going to let Denise ruin her day.”
The source also added that, “Taylor respected Denise and will continue to do so, as this will go away very quickly. But if Denise continues to talk about it and bash Taylor, then Taylor would say something. The ball is still in Denise’s court to see if she wants to continue the narrative she brought upon herself.”
Denise’s comments might be explained by a new report that says Swift broke Healy’s heart, not the other way around. “It’s a horrible thing to have the most famous person in the world saying that your son broke her heart when it was the other way around, and then you can’t even defend yourself,” a source told Us Weekly.
The source added, “She’s saying the mother-in-law stuff because that’s where Matty thought it was headed. She’s entitled to her opinion.”
“Any mum can imagine what it would feel like — but then you have to multiply it by a million because of how famous [Taylor] is,” the source also said, explaining that Welch “is still Matty’s mum at the end of the day, and it was bloody hard for her to stay quiet during the whole ordeal.”
She’s not quiet now. Swift, however, still is. We shall see how long that remains the case, or if we’ll hear about it in a new song. It’s great catharsis, after all.
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